Interesting

[RIJIMMY]

I think its funny that Spence beleives that Bin Laden is fighting for "opressed" people.
He is fighting for his "god given" right to oppress others based interpretations of his religion. He wants to oppress women, free speech, education, trade, culture, etc. I agree with your reasons for 9/11, but you leave out the US reasons for creating those situtaions. We have interests and allies we need to protect.

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

I think its funny that Spence beleives that Bin Laden is fighting for "opressed" people.
He is fighting for his "god given" right to oppress others based interpretations of his religion. He wants to oppress women, free speech, education, trade, culture, etc. I agree with your reasons for 9/11, but you leave out the US reasons for creating those situtaions. We have interests and allies we need to protect.

I'm not trying to justify US policy, much of which is easy to justify. But a direct or indirect result of much of that policy has been suffering, this is impossible to deny.

Here's the key.

America being the root cause of the suffering isn't the issue, rather it's that we stand in the way of fundamentalist Muslims ability to solve the problems in their chosen manner, namely to eastablish an Islamic state.

If you get hung up on the fact that militant fundamentalists are often oppressers themselves, you loose sight of the motive!

-spence

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by spence

America being the root cause of the suffering isn't the issue, rather it's that we stand in the way of fundamentalist Muslims ability to solve the problems in their chosen manner, namely to eastablish an Islamic state.

-spence

You're right, we shouldnt have stood in the way of the establishment of the Ariyan nation either, Let them solve their own problems

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

You're right, we shouldnt have stood in the way of the establishment of the Ariyan nation either, Let them solve their own problems

You're obviously having some difficulty thinking critically.

-spence