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Old 10-04-2008, 05:10 PM   #1
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Thought you might be interested in the ENTIRE quote....in context, from the book.

Not some propaganda e-mail that is circling the world... I'm pretty sure he wasn't talking about these idiots in the pictures

"As a senator, I receive countless invitations to address the newest Americans, where I am often quizzed on my foreign policy views...

"But mostly they want affirmation that they, too, are Americans... my message is simple, for what I've come to understand is that my mere presence before these newly minted Americans serves notice that they matter, that they are voters critical to my success and full-fledged citizens deserving of respect.

"Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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Old 10-04-2008, 05:14 PM   #2
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Oh, there you go raining on my parade with your CONTEXT while I was just getting used to the hate and bigotry.

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Old 10-04-2008, 06:43 PM   #3
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Oh, there you go raining on my parade with your CONTEXT while I was just getting used to the hate and bigotry.

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hate and bigotry ???

How would you feel if the demonstration above was held in your neighborhood ? I can't for one minute believe that you would have no animosity towards them....

There's only one way to deal with fanatics like that. They would do it to us as americans, given the chance. If you don't think so you are living in a cave.
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give them a plasma screen, an ounce of kind bud and a couple free passes to some internet porn sites, and we will have peace.
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Old 10-04-2008, 07:13 PM   #5
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hate and bigotry ???

How would you feel if the demonstration above was held in your neighborhood ? I can't for one minute believe that you would have no animosity towards them....

There's only one way to deal with fanatics like that. They would do it to us as americans, given the chance. If you don't think so you are living in a cave.
MAC, I think you missed the point of the post.

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MAC, I think you missed the point of the post.

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I didn't miss the point. It is like the kid poking the beehive with a stick. (from my part)
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Old 10-04-2008, 07:55 PM   #7
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hate and bigotry ???

How would you feel if the demonstration above was held in your neighborhood ? I can't for one minute believe that you would have no animosity towards them....

There's only one way to deal with fanatics like that. They would do it to us as americans, given the chance. If you don't think so you are living in a cave.
Islamic Center of New England is 10 miles from the center of Stoughton.

Haven't heard of any beheadings lately have you?

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Islamic Center of New England is 10 miles from the center of Stoughton.

Haven't heard of any beheadings lately have you?
No, Never saw any banners being waved like above either. Or did you miss where I said fanatics. The muslims around here are peaceable from what I have seen and I have no problem with them.

But if they started force feeding crap like in the pictures above feelings would change. (This I believe of all Americans)
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No, Never saw any banners being waved like above either. Or did you miss where I said fanatics. The muslims around here are peaceable from what I have seen and I have no problem with them.

But if they started force feeding crap like in the pictures above feelings would change. (This I believe of all Americans)
But its the media force feeding you crap.
Your above observation is for the most part dead on.

There should be a chain letter for chain letter senders that says if they send the chain letter they will be beaten within an inch of their life.

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My post after Spences post was meant to be somewhat tongue in cheek. Do I believe Obama would do things like that; NO. Do I think he would sit idlely by and let it happen;NO.

After 9/11 I can't see a demonstration being held and tolerated anywhere in the USA like that. Prior to 9/11 it would have been upheld under the right to assemble. Not now though. I believe the permit would be declined for safety issues on the demonstrators part.

Is there hate and bigotry here in the US ? You bet. And there will be with some for the rest of their days. Especially for religious fanatics who seek to destroy the western culture.
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