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11-13-2009, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
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I'm sure this is at odds with what the Sec. of State had planned. This isn't going to help with the diplomacy route. However, that was never going to work anyways so score one for common sense  |
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11-13-2009, 04:24 PM
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I had to search long and hard, about 6 seconds at least, using obscure tools like the Google, to determine that the cases will be tried under the Military Commissions process established under President Bush.
-spence
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11-13-2009, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I had to search long and hard, about 6 seconds at least, using obscure tools like the Google, to determine that the cases will be tried under the Military Commissions process established under President Bush.
-spence
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From what I understand is the trial is to be held in civilian court. Are you tring to say this is Bush's idea Spence? They never would step foot on American soil let alone NY, if Bush had his way. Nice try. |
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11-13-2009, 06:07 PM
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From what I understand is the trial is to be held in civilian court. Are you tring to say this is Bush's idea Spence? They never would step foot on American soil let alone NY, if Bush had his way. Nice try.
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Nice try? How about you try the Google...
-spence |
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11-13-2009, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Nice try? How about you try the Google...
-spence
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Not sure what your point is but the trials are being held in Fed. Court just blocks from Ground Zero. |
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11-13-2009, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
Not sure what your point is but the trials are being held in Fed. Court just blocks from Ground Zero.
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Ahhh, it looks like the news story I was reading had mixed the cases...I can't find it anymore, go figure...
But it also looks like we've convicted nearly 200 terrorists in US Federal court, so what's the problem?
Do you believe in due process? Either these guys are terrorists or they are not.
Do you think it's ethical to hold them indefinately and probably submit them to some torture along the way, if we don't as a nation, who says we follow the rule of law, believe they don't stand the test of our own courts?
If so, what do you believe in?
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11-13-2009, 07:19 PM
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Spence, I googled Flyrod and I haven't come up on any of the five pages, go figure.
Ya! Ya! Spence your getting like JB have to google to get your answers
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11-13-2009, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Ahhh, it looks like the news story I was reading had mixed the cases...I can't find it anymore, go figure...
NO, YOU CONFUSED YOUR GOOGLES AND ARE WRONG
But it also looks like we've convicted nearly 200 terrorists in US Federal court, so what's the problem?
THE PROBLEM IS IT WILL BE A CIRCUS AND IS POINTLESS, DANGEROUS AND STUPID
Do you believe in due process? Either these guys are terrorists or they are not.
THEY ARE
Do you think it's ethical to hold them indefinately and probably submit them to some torture along the way, if we don't as a nation, who says we follow the rule of law, believe they don't stand the test of our own courts?
IF THEY ARE FOUND NOT GUILTY DO YOU THINK THEY ARE WALKING FREE?
If so, what do you believe in?
-spence
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I believe that our civil court system is the wrong way of doling out justice to terrorist. Can you imagine coming up with an untainted jury pool of peers in of all places NYC.
You are giving the "masterminds" of the worst attack on the US since Pearl Harbor the open forumn to tell the world why they did it. They don't deserve that and the police, firefighters and people who suffered from 9/11 don't deserve that. |
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11-13-2009, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Ahhh, it looks like the news story I was reading had mixed the cases...I can't find it anymore, go figure...
-spence
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You didn't imagine it....I read the same article earlier.
was 4 going to NY for trial and 4-6 (can't remember exactly) facing a Military tribunal. |
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