Growing opposition to NPS crow kill

[2na]

GF, a couple of years back they trapped out all of the fox and skunks up top. At one point the skunks were thicker than gulls there - when you walked up to your truck at night you approached it with trepidation. If it was a new moon I usually circled around mine with my necklight on checking under it and especially in the tracks. More than one guy I know got a spraydown.

Haven't seen a one out there since, a good 6-7 years.

[Raven]

Who are they to say that a crow's life is any less valuable than a plovers life.

All life is precious and none can be replaced..... is what i told an Elderly woman who questioned me on why i would go out of my way to save the life of an English Sparrow. She said... it's just a sparrow !
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If i hear that they go ahead with the poison nests i'd be tempted to go down there and remove it all because that is just not the right approach.
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Unless they had installed game camera's to prove whats happening to the eggs they cannot just RANDOMLY select a "possible predator" and "order it" to be killed by poisoning it. that's totally illogical.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by Raven

Who are they to say that a crow's life is any less valuable than a plovers life.

Unfortunately, the Endangered Species Act along with lobbying by the National Audubon Society.

All life is precious... as long as it is cute, cuddly and furthers an agenda.

[PRBuzz]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

All life is precious... as long as it is cute, cuddly and furthers an agenda.

Minor edit: All life is precious... as long as someone is willing to give $$$ to protect it.

[Raven]

it nearly wiped out the Condor population

it made all the eggshells so super thin
that the egg sitting parent would crush
all the eggs and they'd dehydrate

there was also a problem with poisoning ground hogs
because the cattle would step into the holes and snap
a leg and then get put down.... so they poisoned
the crap out of them....

soon the owls ,eagles, and every other bird of prey
and furry scavenger started eating all these poisoned animals
with disastrous results

and they claim animal trapping is cruelty to animals

i am not against population control of any species -go for it

but i am definitely against poisoning animals

[Raven]

Originally Posted by Raven

Who are they to say that a crow's life is any less valuable than a plovers life.

All life is precious and none can be replaced..... is what i told an Elderly woman who questioned me on why i would go out of my way to save the life of an English Sparrow. She said... it's just a sparrow !.

that's about as idiotic as saying:
GOTTA DIE FROM SUMTHIN

I have JUST one pesky crow and he's gonna be hanging upside down
with wings outstretched to warn the other's that i mean business
at the top of a tree -> swinging back and forth

[Karl F]

Originally Posted by 2na

GF, a couple of years back they trapped out all of the fox and skunks up top. At one point the skunks were thicker than gulls there - when you walked up to your truck at night you approached it with trepidation. If it was a new moon I usually circled around mine with my necklight on checking under it and especially in the tracks. More than one guy I know got a spraydown.

Haven't seen a one out there since, a good 6-7 years.

same thing was done at Monomoy and parts of Nauset...
I had a talk with the guy they hired to do the trapping..he was so pissed at the audubon people that they sent to help him.. he was going to relocate the skunks to central mass where he is from...but they insisted on drowning them in the burlap bags (he said they won't spray if they are bagged, when trapped, and they can still breathe OK in there) he had them stowed in..he got so pissed he quit, he said they took a little too much glee in doing it too.
I remember the seagull thing, that did not work out well, as was cancelled after them falling out of the sky over main st. Chatham...and the sharpshooter from out west for the coyotes..
envirowhacks playing God...
wonder who their travel agent is that books their Power Trips for them...

[robc22]

Stone the crows.....the coyotes.....the skunks and coons.......protect the seals and plovers......ban shellfishing........don't even think about it.........