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Old 03-09-2010, 01:07 PM   #1
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Do you think that WWF, Greenpeace, Defenders of Wildlife, Pew Environment Group and the others are a short or long-term threat?
There are pros and cons with activism, and various levels at that. You simply can't lump it all together...

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Old 03-09-2010, 01:11 PM   #2
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There are pros and cons with activism, and various levels at that. You simply can't lump it all together...

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I'm not lumping them together. The article that you're commenting on did. So, will you answer my question?

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Old 03-09-2010, 01:34 PM   #3
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I'm not lumping them together. The article that you're commenting on did. So, will you answer my question?
I did answer your question, by stating that the threat of activist groups as positioned by yourself was lacking in context to be of much importance.

The article you're commenting on is trying to string you along by sequencing elements in the hope that you'll make the connections by yourself.

A) The Obama Admin closed the window for public comment

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B) Radical activists will protect animals just because they're cute

must =

C) Obama wants to screw fisherman because that's what liberals do

The author seems to want you to believe that the Administration is out to exact some dubious revenge on the sportsperson, callously striking their input for the record so they can close the doors and work with tree spiking radicals to shut down an entire industry....just like they did in ONTARIO.

This doesn't appear to be true.

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Old 03-09-2010, 01:50 PM   #4
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I did answer your question, by stating that the threat of activist groups as positioned by yourself was lacking in context to be of much importance.

The article you're commenting on is trying to string you along by sequencing elements in the hope that you'll make the connections by yourself.

A) The Obama Admin closed the window for public comment

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B) Radical activists will protect animals just because they're cute

must =

C) Obama wants to screw fisherman because that's what liberals do

The author seems to want you to believe that the Administration is out to exact some dubious revenge on the sportsperson, callously striking their input for the record so they can close the doors and work with tree spiking radicals to shut down an entire industry....just like they did in ONTARIO.

This doesn't appear to be true.

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Actually, I wasn't trying to position anything. I asked you a question because you commented on corporate fishing, but not the activist groups. I was just curious as to what you thought about the activist groups mentioned in the article. Nothing more, nothing less. But as usual, you tried to use the old end around and not just give a simple answer. Do you ever get tired of thinking up different ways to come off as a blowhard?

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Old 03-09-2010, 02:08 PM   #5
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Actually, I wasn't trying to position anything. I asked you a question because you commented on corporate fishing, but not the activist groups. I was just curious as to what you thought about the activist groups mentioned in the article. Nothing more, nothing less. But as usual, you tried to use the old end around and not just give a simple answer. Do you ever get tired of thinking up different ways to come off as a blowhard?
Nothing more, nothing less? You asserted they were a threat.

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Nothing more, nothing less? You asserted they were a threat.

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No, you're wrong. Sometimes I just ask you questions to see what you think. I may not put much stock in your opinions, but I like to hear what you have to say sometimes. Anyways, I never asserted anything. Not sure where you got that from.

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Old 03-09-2010, 06:04 PM   #7
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No, you're wrong. Sometimes I just ask you questions to see what you think. I may not put much stock in your opinions, but I like to hear what you have to say sometimes. Anyways, I never asserted anything. Not sure where you got that from.
And in this case, the question assumed the activist groups were a threat.

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I went on the task force's website to read some of the 1,844 comments put in before the comment period ended. Many are from marine biologists, some are save the whales people, some are to protect their stretch of beach, and some are from fisherman. Most of the comments I read were more geared towards stopping pollution in the oceans. Didn't read any from PETA maniacs talking about sea kittens- but I did not read all 1,844.

But then a fisherman from Alabama submitted this comment:

I believe that this is going to be the worst IDEA anyone ever came up with. They think health care protests are bad. They have no idea what this is going to do to the United States of America (remember when this land was called that). Where people were free. Next thing you know you will have to get a bill through congress just to wipe your ASS. Oh- I am sorry, I shouldn't use ASS. Never mind it is in the Constitution under the First Amendment. Remember them? Probably not. Before you decide to change something READ them.
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