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08-25-2011, 10:42 AM
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Also known as OAK
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[QUOTE=Mike P;882817]Whether that's due to the more inland track, or due to some upper atmosphere "sheer" that will start to break up the organization of the thing, I don't know, because clearly the water temps along the NJ coast are warm enough to sustain this as a cat 2 storm.[QUOTE]
It is probably a mix of interaction with the land on the left side, and shallower water. Hurricanes like warm, deep water (where the warm extends to a great depth) so it can keep the heat pump going. Generally thats around 80deg F to maintain-strengthen.....
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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08-25-2011, 10:52 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Has anyone seen any predicted storm surge models yet? I'm about 14' up and < 1000 feet from the bay. Don't think I'll be waterfront by any stretch but an ounce of preparation....
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08-25-2011, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Has anyone seen any predicted storm surge models yet? I'm about 14' up and < 1000 feet from the bay. Don't think I'll be waterfront by any stretch but an ounce of preparation....
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I had read a potential for 10-15 feet but if the storm stays west I'd think long island would get it the worst.
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08-25-2011, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
I had read a potential for 10-15 feet but if the storm stays west I'd think long island would get it the worst.
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I agree, but historical models of 38 had lots of storm surge in the bay because the water couldn't get out.
I am so glad I didn't buy on Conimicut Point
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08-25-2011, 12:12 PM
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Also known as OAK
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Originally Posted by JohnR
I agree, but historical models of 38 had lots of storm surge in the bay because the water couldn't get out.
I am so glad I didn't buy on Conimicut Point
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It's actually because of the funnelling effect of the bay (less room for the water as you go North into the Bay). The same reason why the tidal range is higher in Providence than Newport
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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08-25-2011, 12:18 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
It's actually because of the funnelling effect of the bay (less room for the water as you go North into the Bay). The same reason why the tidal range is higher in Providence than Newport
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Yup, and it's the same situation in Buzzards Bay--very wide mouth, tiny neck (the Canal). In 54, Carol's storm surge almost wiped out the Taylor's Point area, where MMA sits today. I remember seeing dad's pictures of houses sitting on the RR tracks near Maco's. Swift's Beach is another bad area. In 38 a number of people were killed there, by the surge.
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08-25-2011, 12:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
It's actually because of the funnelling effect of the bay (less room for the water as you go North into the Bay). The same reason why the tidal range is higher in Providence than Newport
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I was going to use "funneling effect" as that was how I understood from previous readings but didn't want to appear all nerdy 
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08-25-2011, 12:53 PM
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Also known as OAK
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Originally Posted by JohnR
I was going to use "funneling effect" as that was how I understood from previous readings but didn't want to appear all nerdy 
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I am a living walking nerd in a fishermans body. can't help it...
fyi, 2pm NOAA-GFS model (Wind speed; the maroon is 60kts )
This is 0000 UTC Monday (Sunday Evening Local)
Watch for an easterly drift again.....
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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