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Old 07-29-2012, 10:38 AM   #1
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your point is well taken chris. i don't have a problem with the anglers themselves- it the regs set by the govt agencies and the agencies themselves that i have a problem with.

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Old 07-29-2012, 10:47 AM   #2
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I just want some gps numbers

I bet I might have a shot in a pond like that one!
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:15 AM   #3
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All I see is a big pile of dead big fish and a goon showing off to morons on the internet.

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Old 07-29-2012, 11:48 AM   #4
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All I see is a big pile of dead big fish and a goon showing off to morons on the internet.
Amen.
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Old 07-29-2012, 01:27 PM   #5
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Hi Guys,

I hope you are having a nice weekend.

I just wanted to say that I respect and understand all the different opinions, perspectives and beliefs voiced throughout this thread.

I will certainly give some thought and consideration to all your comments. We all have a right to our own beliefs and opinions, which is of course A-OK with me.

Best of luck guys and enjoy the rest of your 2012 fishing season.

Take care,

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Old 07-29-2012, 04:40 PM   #6
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Oh here we go again!

I hope that no one that has a problem with commercial fishing has ever eaten a wild ramp in a fancy restaurant because I cant find a one in the woods to bring home to my dinner table.

I have said it before and I will say it again if you fish and catch stripers YOU ARE HAVING AN IMPACT ON THE FISHERY in some way shape and form! Even if you are a "catch and release" holy roller!

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Old 07-29-2012, 05:44 PM   #7
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Oh here we go again!

I hope that no one that has a problem with commercial fishing has ever eaten a wild ramp in a fancy restaurant because I cant find a one in the woods to bring home to my dinner table.

I have said it before and I will say it again if you fish and catch stripers YOU ARE HAVING AN IMPACT ON THE FISHERY in some way shape and form! Even if you are a "catch and release" holy roller!
EXACTLY! And do you notice how many people complain on the internet, but when the time comes to attend a meeting or hearing to protect the fishery they have other more important things to do that day.
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Old 08-05-2012, 06:54 AM   #8
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makes you feel like all your C&R efforts over the years to rebuild the stocks are just so others can rape it .. legal I know ,, just a crappy feeling . wonder how many of these young guys were around when there were no fish .

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Old 08-05-2012, 08:42 AM   #9
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Anyone who is #^&#^&#^&#^&ting on the anglers is in denial themselves. For every fisherman who has a great day like this, there is another that is waiting to take his/her place. As long as the law and quota are there, you WILL NEVER change the fact that fishermen will be catching striped bass and selling them.

And, as law abiding fishermen yourselves, I find it incredibly hypocritical to call these guys name and #^&#^&#^&#^& on them for doing nothing other than following the law.

Here is an excerpt from a 2008 Mass division of marine fisheries publication.

During 2008, the commercial fishery for striped bass in Massachusetts sold about 61,076 fish weighing
1,160,122 pounds and kept approximately 4,255 fish for personal consumption. Total losses due to commercial
harvesting (including release mortality) were 71,773 fish weighing 1,268,542 pounds. The recreational
fishery harvested about 343,347 striped bass weighing over 5.5 million pounds. Total losses due to recreational
fishing (including release mortality) were 634,648 fish weighing over 7 million pounds.

The recreational fishermen releases (wastes) more dead fish, than the entire commercial fleet kills all year.
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Old 08-05-2012, 08:59 AM   #10
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And here is another thing to mull over.

How many people will those 30 fish feed? A lot. And I'll tell you something else - the people who are paying $15-$20 per pound are not going to put it in a freezer bag and let it get freezer burnt until they finally throw it out, like some rec guys that would.

Commercial fishing allows people who don't fish to eat striped bass. Instead of "supporting your local bait shop" and spending thousands on gear, these people are supporting their local fish market and fishermen.

Saying that a rec guy shouldn't be able to go out and make money by doing something that he loves and is legal, is like saying that Americans shouldn't be allowed to decide what they want to do to make a living. That goes against every value that our country was founded on.

My point is that you shouldn't be taking it out on the fishermen that are following the rules. Take it out on those who are making the rules and those who don't follow the rules.

And just to clarify, I definitely think that these guys should have been prepared to catch that many fish and ice them properly. They had enough eels, they should have been prepared with the proper equipment to serve the people of mass fresh fish. If they were so proud to do so, they would have been prepared.

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Old 07-30-2012, 03:42 AM   #11
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All I see is a big pile of dead big fish and a goon showing off to morons on the internet.
U R on the internet....therefore U must be a self proclaimed -----
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well said

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what i was trying to say earlier
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your point is well taken chris. i don't have a problem with the anglers themselves- it the regs set by the govt agencies and the agencies themselves that i have a problem with.
X2

If one half the people that claimed to be heavy conservationists made comment on many of the addendum's and legislation that is put in front of us. A lot more would get done.

Regardless it's recreational anglers expect to take fish away from commercial anglers they have to show they're willing to cut back as well.
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Regardless it's recreational anglers expect to take fish away from commercial anglers they have to show they're willing to cut back as well.
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Exactly.

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