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10-25-2012, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Yes, and it makes Romney and Ryan, according to your views unfit to serve in the office of President and Vice President.
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That is not correct Romney stated he felt abortion and reproductive rights are an issue for the states to decide not the federal government. I don't remember any where that Paul Ryan has stated he is 100% pro life or would look to change current precedent based on religious beliefs. How does that qualify as collusion of church and state?
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10-25-2012, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Jackbass
That is not correct Romney stated he felt abortion and reproductive rights are an issue for the states to decide not the federal government. I don't remember any where that Paul Ryan has stated he is 100% pro life or would look to change current precedent based on religious beliefs. How does that qualify as collusion of church and state?
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Then why are they endorsing Mourdock? Is it because they believe what he believes re God's intent? Or is it because they believe it is an issue for the states, and that Mourdock's beliefs are of no consequence to federal legislation? If the former, they are, by your view, not fit for office? If the latter, and you support Romney/Ryan, why do you care so much about Mourdock's view on God's will? And if it's a squishy attempt at political correctness so that both they and Mourdock can get elected, does your contempt for such dupicity hold second candle to getting your boys elected? And if that's so, then maybe you should hold your nose and let Mourdock get elected so your boys can get control of the Senate.
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10-25-2012, 11:09 AM
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Once again, was he stating that the rape was God's intent or was the fertization of an egg to create a zygote?
Two completely different issues that are complete opposites!
Let's clarify that first so that we will all know what he said and not what was "reported"!!!
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10-25-2012, 11:49 AM
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There is no possible way to spin any result of a rape as Gods intention.
Unless Spince gets involved in the discussion.
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10-25-2012, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
There is no possible way to spin any result of a rape as Gods intention.
Unless Spince gets involved in the discussion.
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Not true if you believe that God has a plan for everything or if you believe life begins at conception. Would you kill a baby after he or she is born just because he or she has been conceived as a result of rape? To some it's the same and with legitimate reason.
Not judging either way
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10-25-2012, 01:09 PM
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Politically speaking, it's an incredibly stupid thing to say.
I'mnot sure his point, if I understand it correctly, is all that deranged. Anti death penalty folks are mostly opposed to the death penalty because it's immoral to kill a human. If one person is a decent person, and the other is a murderer, the anti-death-penalty advocate says that both are equally deserving if life. There's a lot of logic to that.
Similarly, those who are anti-abortion, can make a case that the details of conception are irrelevent. If the baby is a human being, then it is entitled to protections, regardless of the level of consent involved in the conception. Is a person born of rape less of a person than other people?
I'm not sayng I agree, just arguing for the sake of arguing...
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10-25-2012, 04:26 PM
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It is too bad you are missing the point here.
There have been enough advances and contributions from people who were "mistakes".There is certainly nobody alive who is less of a person,regardless of conception. But to characterize it as Gods will under those circumstances is reckless and deranged.
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10-25-2012, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
Not true if you believe that God has a plan for everything or if you believe life begins at conception. Would you kill a baby after he or she is born just because he or she has been conceived as a result of rape? To some it's the same and with legitimate reason.
Not judging either way
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If God has a plan for people to get raped and pregnant why is he so popular?
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10-25-2012, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
If God has a plan for people to get raped and pregnant why is he so popular?
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You'll have to ask a higher power then me .
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10-25-2012, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
If God has a plan for people to get raped and pregnant why is he so popular?
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