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06-12-2010, 10:12 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
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So the Australian taxpayers paid to charter the Airbus?
So the fishing boat captain ended up in the water risking his life?
So the fishing boat crew's families will go without their catch shares?
All so a wealthy Calif teenager can play in the Southern Indian Ocean?
Clearly it was worth it from her father's point of view.
Brilliant.
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06-12-2010, 01:54 PM
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06-12-2010, 02:51 PM
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lobster = striper bait
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Have you booked your plane ticket to go yell at her yet Jim? She intends on trying again.
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06-12-2010, 05:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by likwid
Have you booked your plane ticket to go yell at her yet Jim? She intends on trying again.
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likwid, if I thought it would get through to her Dad, I would do it. But as he, and you, have proven, you can't cure "stupid".
By the way, my 15 year-old wants to fly for the Air Force (we're a military family). I agreed to let her take some flying lessons, but I insisted that she fly with the most experienced, highly regarded, expert around. She only flies on perfect days, and even though her instructor says she could fly solo, it will not happen on my watch, not for a few years.
I don't keep my kids in a bubble. Nor do I give them a whiskey bottle and keys to the car. There is a wide range of activities that allow kids to live life to the fullest, yet aren't certifiably crazy. This one's not even on the fence.
If you'd agree to thist, what could your 16 year old ask permission for, which you would ever say "no" to? |
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06-12-2010, 05:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
likwid, if I thought it would get through to her Dad, I would do it. But as he, and you, have proven, you can't cure "stupid".
By the way, my 15 year-old wants to fly for the Air Force (we're a military family). I agreed to let her take some flying lessons, but I insisted that she fly with the most experienced, highly regarded, expert around. She only flies on perfect days, and even though her instructor says she could fly solo, it will not happen on my watch, not for a few years.
I don't keep my kids in a bubble. Nor do I give them a whiskey bottle and keys to the car. There is a wide range of activities that allow kids to live life to the fullest, yet aren't certifiably crazy. This one's not even on the fence.
If you'd agree to thist, what could your 16 year old ask permission for, which you would ever say "no" to?
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no one has said your a bad parent my friend.  |
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06-12-2010, 02:54 PM
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I hope they give her a more managable boat.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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06-12-2010, 04:25 PM
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lobster = striper bait
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
I hope they give her a more managable boat.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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06-12-2010, 04:30 PM
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Lol
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06-12-2010, 04:55 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
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Daddy......HELP!
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06-12-2010, 04:55 PM
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now that she is safe i can say it - just another spoiled rich kid.
She wants to try again. She is 16. What about school, boys, sports?
My youngest daughter is 16 and thinks she is stupid. Do I need to say more?
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06-12-2010, 04:57 PM
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Marcia! Marcia! Marcia!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stcroixman
now that she is safe i can say it - just another spoiled rich kid.
She wants to try again. She is 16. What about school, boys, sports?
My youngest daughter is 16 and thinks she is stupid. Do I need to say more?
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06-12-2010, 07:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarshCappa
Please don't.
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Ok I'll bite. Kids aren't always as stupid as we think. They recognize spoiled rich kids, especilly those who play X games for real like Abby.
Is her daddy going to pay big $$$ for another boat? Why are we supposed to respect this stupid stunt?
I see postings for and against. I am always a non supporter of this Kennedy kind of behavior. |
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06-12-2010, 08:07 PM
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History does not remember those who sat on the couch.
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06-12-2010, 08:10 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
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DDDDDAAAAAaaaaaaaddddd...........y....yyy......... .......
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06-12-2010, 08:23 PM
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lobster = striper bait
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
DDDDDAAAAAaaaaaaaddddd...........y....yyy......... .......
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I'm wondering if we should remember posts like this if you're found wader boots up...
BTW, there's bass at MTK. |
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06-13-2010, 06:00 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by likwid
I'm wondering if we should remember posts like this if you're found wader boots up...
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Please do, likwid. Unlike the 16 yo, I'm past the point of my life where dying would have any great consequence, and if it helps you maintain your delusion of being special it would not bother me. |
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06-12-2010, 08:24 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
History does not remember those who sat on the couch.
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How do we remember Eric Tabarly? As France's record setting solo sailor, who ultimately was lost at sea........while sailing solo. Got to know him in 1982 in Newport.
http://www.sailing.org/halloffame/21218.php
Last edited by nightfighter; 06-12-2010 at 08:30 PM..
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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06-12-2010, 08:37 PM
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lobster = striper bait
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nightfighter
How do we remember Eric Tabarly? As France's record setting solo sailor, who ultimately was lost at sea........while sailing solo. Got to know him in 1982 in Newport.
ISAF Hall of Fame : Eric Tabarly |
Nobody gives a damn about sailing in the US. You know that.
Most have no clue who Joshua Slocum or Nathanael Herreshoff were.
Nor Dodge Morgan, or Mike Plant.
Terry Hutchinson will never be a household name like John Bertrand once was overseas.
Nor will they ever care. |
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06-13-2010, 05:51 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by likwid
Nobody gives a damn about sailing in the US. You know that.
Most have no clue who Joshua Slocum or Nathanael Herreshoff were.
Nor Dodge Morgan, or Mike Plant.
Terry Hutchinson will never be a household name like John Bertrand once was overseas.
Nor will they ever care.
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For good reason. It is no longer anything special. Technology and safety gear has cheapened it to the point that even a child can do it.
Joshua Slocum did it, and did it the hard way. It has been done, it can be done, doing it again and again whether younger, faster, or with less stops is gilding the lilly.
Nathaniel Hereshoff's accomplishments are in the realm of engineering and art......they have nothing to do 16 yo's setting records.
The truth of this stunt is that it was conceived to make the girl and her parents seem special........both to themselves and to the public. Hence the publicity surrounding it. If it was about the girl herself it would have been done privately.
The fact is that it is very, very likely there is absolutely nothing special about this girl at all. If there was she would not need a stunt to show it. More likely she is probably just another fairly smart, fairly mature 16 yo doing what she has been raised to think she needs to do to gain her parent's approval as she separates from them during adolescence. It is her parent's decision on how they want to raise their children, and surely that is their right and choice, though I would suggest that teaching your kids to think they are special (which is a whole different thing than teaching them to strive to be their best) rarely ends happily. The world will define special as what they do for others, not they do for themselves. Expensive sailboats included. |
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06-12-2010, 08:19 PM
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What's funny is that if she'd made it and that was the first we had heard...
Everyone would be remarking at what an incredible young woman she was and how proud her parents must be.
-spence
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06-13-2010, 08:12 AM
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got gas?
Join Date: Mar 2002
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My dad brought up an interesting point. He actullay has sailed the Southern Oceans and most of all had to buy insurance for the boat. He thinks that the insurance company will not pay any claim becuase there was no one on watch when the wave hit. Her mother stated that Abbey was below deck on the sat phone with her when the wave stuck, thus no one on watch. There was a clause in his policy that stated there must be a crewman on wacth at all times, while at sea. Interesting point.
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06-13-2010, 01:28 PM
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lobster = striper bait
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Duke41
My dad brought up an interesting point. He actullay has sailed the Southern Oceans and most of all had to buy insurance for the boat. He thinks that the insurance company will not pay any claim becuase there was no one on watch when the wave hit. Her mother stated that Abbey was below deck on the sat phone with her when the wave stuck, thus no one on watch. There was a clause in his policy that stated there must be a crewman on wacth at all times, while at sea. Interesting point.
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On watch means "in command of the vessel" not "on deck".
All of the Open class boats are driven by autopilot a vast majority of the time and full access to those controls are both down below and on deck.
Thats one for the lawyers to decide.
Also, there was no single wave that did it, the boat was knocked down multiple times. |
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06-13-2010, 01:58 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
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Surprise, surprise. A teenage girl is talking on the phone while a machine drives a boat bought by her father to make her famous through a storm and something bad happens. What was she talking about, movie rights?
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06-13-2010, 03:36 PM
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lobster = striper bait
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
Surprise, surprise. A teenage girl is talking on the phone while a machine drives a boat bought by her father to make her famous through a storm and something bad happens. What was she talking about, movie rights?
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Breaking News: Stupid comment made by stupid troll. News at 11. |
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06-13-2010, 08:18 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
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Gee, I thought we were discussing how ocean sailing makes people special  . My bad. |
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06-14-2010, 07:16 AM
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Also known as OAK
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what were the motives again...
or is it just capitalizing on the fame of the kids....
Abby Sunderland's dad had TV deal as girl risked life at sea - NYPOST.com
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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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06-14-2010, 04:31 PM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
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Guess she is not really a spoiled rich kid, just slave labor
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Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
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06-14-2010, 04:52 PM
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Reminds me of the kid who flew away in the weather Balloon a few months ago.
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06-15-2010, 07:58 AM
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lobster = striper bait
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
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apparently numbskull is a tv producer too!
Sunderland said the individual who approached him about the project, Ted Caloroso, has "a personal vendetta against me." He said Caloroso was going to take the show in an unethical direction, depicting him as a bad father and predicated on Abby dying in the venture.
Abby Sunderland's Father Denies Plans for Reality TV Show
Dad is a wacko, I wouldn't trust a single thing good or bad that comes out of his mouth. |
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06-14-2010, 07:35 AM
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I think most people would agree that we're at the point where even a small dose of fame has tremendous short-term value. In an open society, where such blatant opportunity exists to capitalize on fame - it's unrealistic to expect that people will not engage in risky or outrageous activities that could net them marketable notoriety.
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