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Old 11-15-2021, 08:24 PM   #1
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Mostly wrong.
with all that evidence, who can argue with you.

the judge knows less about Wisconsin law than you?
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Old 11-15-2021, 08:34 PM   #2
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with all that evidence, who can argue with you.

the judge knows less about Wisconsin law than you?
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The judge said a poorly written law should favor the defense.

Jim, do you think a minor should be able to open carry a high velocity weapon in any state?
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Old 11-15-2021, 08:47 PM   #3
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The judge said a poorly written law should favor the defense.

Jim, do you think a minor should be able to open carry a high velocity weapon in any state?
the law says a 17 year old can have that rifle as long as it’s barrel was beyond a minimum length. his was.

no, for the 20th time i think what rittenhouse did was one of the dumber and more reckless things i’ve heard of. but it’s not against the law to be dumb and reckless.

he. didn’t. break. that. law.

i think it was dumb if him to be there with that rifle. dumb. but not illegal.

the way this was spun in the media, is unbelievable. now that the truth is seeing the light of the day, it’s one more thing to hold against the left.

are they trying to lose?
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Old 11-15-2021, 09:10 PM   #4
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the law says a 17 year old can have that rifle as long as it’s barrel was beyond a minimum length. his was.
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Read the law, that’s not what it says. The judge is trying to get this kid off with nothing. I don’t think he should be in jail for life but he needs to own up to his incredibly reckless behavior.
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Read the law, that’s not what it says. The judge is trying to get this kid off with nothing. I don’t think he should be in jail for life but he needs to own up to his incredibly reckless behavior.
post the law then spence, or give it a rest. i’m going by the judge. the judge got the prosecutor team to concede that the rifle was long enough such that it was legal. the prosecutor stated that.

we don’t put people in prison for doing things you don’t happen to like, unless he breaks a law. i don’t see a broken law.

the media lies help the right. an acquittal helps the riot. subsequent rioting will help the right.
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Old 11-16-2021, 05:05 AM   #6
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yet another narrative created and pushed by the left and media for political proposes falls apart....I wonder if we can get a vaccine to protect us from these people?

not a right wing loon....https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/...s-collapse-650

When All The Media Narratives Collapse
In case after case, the US MSM just keeps getting it wrong.
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Trump was right, in the end, about the dodgy dossier; he was right about the duped FBI’s original overreach; and the mass media — Rachel Maddow chief among them — were wrong. And yet the dossier dominated the headlines for three years, and the “corrections” have a fraction of the audience of the errors. Maddow gets promoted. And the man who first published it, Ben Smith, was made the media columnist for the NYT.

Think of the other narratives the MSM pushed in recent years that have collapsed. They viciously defamed the Covington boys. They authoritatively told us that bounties had been placed on US soldiers in Afghanistan by Putin — and Trump’s denials only made them more certain. They told us that the lab-leak theory of Covid was a conspiracy theory with no evidence behind it at all. (The NYT actually had the story of the leak theory, by Donald McNeil, killed it, and then fired McNeil, their best Covid reporter, after some schoolgirls complained he wasn’t woke.) Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

The MSM took the ludicrous story of Jussie Smollett seriously because it fit their nutty “white supremacy” narrative. They told us that a woman was brutally gang-raped at UVA (invented), that the Pulse mass shooting was driven by homophobia (untrue) and that the Atlanta spa shooter was motivated by anti-Asian bias (no known evidence for that at all). For good measure, they followed up with story after story about white supremacists targeting Asian-Americans, in a new wave of “hate,” even as the assaults were disproportionately by African Americans and the mentally ill.

As Greenwald noted, the NYT “published an emotionally gut-wrenching but complete fiction that never had any evidence — that Officer Sicknick’s skull was savagely bashed in with a fire extinguisher by a pro-Trump mob until he died.” The media told us that an alleged transgender exposure in the Wi Spa in Los Angeles was an anti-trans hoax (also untrue). They told us that the emails recovered on Hunter Biden’s laptop were Russian disinformation. They did this just before an election and used that claim to stymie the story on social media. But they were not Russian disinformation. They were a valid if minor news story the media consciously kept from its audience for partisan purposes.

More recently, the MSM were telling us for months that inflation is a phantasm. We were told that the “2021 Inflation Scare is another in a series of false alarms going back several decades.” We were assured that “the numbers at least for now are on the side of those expecting the trend to subside and then stabilize at lower levels.” Any concern was “fearmongering politics.” And now we wake up to the highest inflation in 30 years, counter-balancing wage increases. Still, they tell us, all will be well.

We were told that vaccines would end the Covid pandemic. But they merely altered Covid to a manageable disease that you could still contract while vaccinated. We were told that the migrant surge at the border was just seasonal, and nothing out of the ordinary, even as 1.7 million migrants were illegally trying to get into the country in the last year. We were told that sending migrants back to their home countries was a wicked and unconscionable Trump tactic — even as the Biden administration swiftly copied it with Haitian immigrants — to much success. The cruelty is the point, eh?

We were — and still are! — being told by most of the media that critical race theory isn’t in high schools at all. Meanwhile, a tsunami of evidence is out there showing that it absolutely is — in every subject, and every class, as the central philosophy behind many states’ education policies.

We all get things wrong. What makes this more worrying is simply that all these false narratives just happen to favor the interests of the left and the Democratic party.

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we don’t put people in prison for doing things you don’t happen to like, unless he breaks a law. i don’t see a broken law.
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Spence is wrong, yet again. I must say, at least he's consistent. Here arethe laws on the books if anyone would care to peruse them

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...tatutes/948/55

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...tes/941/iii/28

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...utes/29/iv/304

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...es/29/viii/593

"poorly worded law"

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Old 11-16-2021, 06:30 AM   #8
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Spence is wrong, yet again. I must say, at least he's consistent. Here arethe laws on the books if anyone would care to peruse them

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...tatutes/948/55

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...tes/941/iii/28

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...utes/29/iv/304

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...es/29/viii/593

"poorly worded law"
in which “poorly worded” means, Spence doesn’t like it.

it doesn’t matter if he likes it, the people of Wisconsin like it.

his best comeback is “well do you think a 17 year old kid should be acting like a Texas Ranger with an AR-15…”

The wisdom of what Rittenhouse did could not matter less in court. All that matters is the legality of what he did.

17 year-old boys typically aren’t in possession of a lot of wisdom. They can’t be, because wisdom is a function of experience.

His mother on the other hand, god almighty lady what were you thinking.

all the lefties here were fooled by the press. the press beat the drum endlessly that he possessed that gin illegally. i heard that 500 times since this began.

the press said he was a white supremacist. i assumed
he shot black people.

the press made it seem like he had no reason to want to protect Kenosha. I learned yesterday that his father lives there, it’s like his second home.

To the lefties here, would you like it if the press all got together to do this to your child?

Trump caught tons of heat for saying the press is the enemy of the people. Well, they were the enemy of the duke lacrosse team, of Darren Wilson, of Nick Samdman, and of Rittenhouse, for sure. The media lied about these people to push a political narrative. That’s a demonstrable pattern. That doesn’t bother the lefties here?

The press absolutely is the enemy of anyone that stands between them and promoting The Narrative.

The media lied, making it more likely these people would be vilified and sent to prison, to serve a political
narrative. That doesn’t bother you guys?

How many times do they get to be this wrong, before they start to lose credibility with you guys? Is there any limit?
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Read the law, that’s not what it says. The judge is trying to get this kid off with nothing. I don’t think he should be in jail for life but he needs to own up to his incredibly reckless behavior.
I knew it had to be a bad judge...couldn't possibly have anything to do with the facts of the case or the law

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the law says a 17 year old can have that rifle as long as it’s barrel was beyond a minimum length. his was.

no, for the 20th time i think what rittenhouse did was one of the dumber and more reckless things i’ve heard of. but it’s not against the law to be dumb and reckless.

he. didn’t. break. that. law.

i think it was dumb if him to be there with that rifle. dumb. but not illegal.
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The judge didn’t find that the possession was legal. The defense found a contradictory statute buried in the books and successfully argued the charge should be dropped. The prosecution should have been prepared to appeal but they were not and the judge made the call literally minutes before closing arguments were set to begin. The law wasn’t clear and that usually favors the defense.
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The judge didn’t find that the possession was legal. The defense found a contradictory statute buried in the books and successfully argued the charge should be dropped. The prosecution should have been prepared to appeal but they were not and the judge made the call literally minutes before closing arguments were set to begin. The law wasn’t clear and that usually favors the defense.
the judge asked if the barrel was above the minimum required to be legal. prosecutor said yes. judge dismissed the count.

the law was clear to those who aren’t hellbent in dissecting the law to find a way to say Rittenhouse broke it.
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Even the judge said the law isn't clear.
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The judge didn’t find that the possession was legal. The defense found a contradictory statute buried in the books and successfully argued the charge should be dropped. The prosecution should have been prepared to appeal but they were not and the judge made the call literally minutes before closing arguments were set to begin. The law wasn’t clear and that usually favors the defense.
this sounds like whining....
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