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07-28-2012, 05:35 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 460
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holy crap
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I LOVE it when MY WIFE lets me fish
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07-28-2012, 07:11 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 629
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This won't go well...
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07-28-2012, 07:24 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pembroke
Posts: 3,343
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Shameful. No comm. limit? Saddening to see.
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07-28-2012, 07:40 PM
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zziplex lover
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: upper cape cod, MA
Posts: 856
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tysdad115
Shameful. No comm. limit? Saddening to see.
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If you read it they took there limit and no more.......
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Lobster Troll #1
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07-28-2012, 07:55 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Chasing fat girls in the dark
Posts: 961
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If you poke around the site, there is an infomercial for what you get if you join (for a fee). Detailed specific location information, marked up google maps of the canal and CC Bay! First month is $1.
So for a buck, he's willing to whore out the exact details of what some of us have spent many years and thousands of $$$ to learn.
This is the kind of crap that has made the canal such a siht hole of a place to fish.
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07-28-2012, 07:59 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
Posts: 8,642
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yup legal com limit....30 fish per day 
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07-29-2012, 02:55 PM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The Sack Of Mass
Posts: 2,357
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Liv2Fish
This is the kind of crap that has made the canal such a siht hole of a place to fish.
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Um what?
Fishing the Canal is easy, no one needs a map... all you need is a tide chart and a pencil popper. There are articles detailing how to read the Canal chart dating back to the 1970s and there were probably many more before that.
No one person or one service made the Canal what it is...
WE DID IT... these message boards did it (They do a lot of great things too don't get me wrong  ) but I know several guys in New Jersey who have Canal bikes... and I know they didn't buy a map, they read the boards, got hungry, read an article or two and went to take their piece of the pie. It's fisherman ego that ruins every spot because too many people can't quietly enjoy a good day of fishing--they have to shout it from the rooftops, puff out their chests at every tackle shop they see on the way home, post it on Facebook and, amid the flames and daggers, post it on a board like this one. It's one of the markers of our times. And when you look it, of course the Canal is a good place to fish, it's the biggest fish funnel on the east coast...
-Dave
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07-29-2012, 09:26 PM
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#8
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,718
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Canalman
Um what?
Fishing the Canal is easy, no one needs a map... all you need is a tide chart and a pencil popper. There are articles detailing how to read the Canal chart dating back to the 1970s and there were probably many more before that.
No one person or one service made the Canal what it is...
WE DID IT... these message boards did it (They do a lot of great things too don't get me wrong  ) but I know several guys in New Jersey who have Canal bikes... and I know they didn't buy a map, they read the boards, got hungry, read an article or two and went to take their piece of the pie. It's fisherman ego that ruins every spot because too many people can't quietly enjoy a good day of fishing--they have to shout it from the rooftops, puff out their chests at every tackle shop they see on the way home, post it on Facebook and, amid the flames and daggers, post it on a board like this one. It's one of the markers of our times. And when you look it, of course the Canal is a good place to fish, it's the biggest fish funnel on the east coast...
-Dave
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There is a spot near the canal that something similar happened to due to loose lips,I guess a dude got a big fish there and next thing you know it was overrun with NJ plates.Freikin internet.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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08-04-2012, 09:58 PM
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#9
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Chasing fat girls in the dark
Posts: 961
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Canalman
Um what?
Fishing the Canal is easy, no one needs a map... all you need is a tide chart and a pencil popper. There are articles detailing how to read the Canal chart dating back to the 1970s and there were probably many more before that.
No one person or one service made the Canal what it is...
WE DID IT... these message boards did it (They do a lot of great things too don't get me wrong  ) but I know several guys in New Jersey who have Canal bikes... and I know they didn't buy a map, they read the boards, got hungry, read an article or two and went to take their piece of the pie. It's fisherman ego that ruins every spot because too many people can't quietly enjoy a good day of fishing--they have to shout it from the rooftops, puff out their chests at every tackle shop they see on the way home, post it on Facebook and, amid the flames and daggers, post it on a board like this one. It's one of the markers of our times. And when you look it, of course the Canal is a good place to fish, it's the biggest fish funnel on the east coast...
-Dave
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I agree 99%. The canal is probably structurally the best location on the east coast to target bass. Anyone can fish it with basic gear and knowledge and have a great time. There is a wealth of "general" information out there, from bike building to reading the water, when the big spring and fall push usually takes place, etc. As you mention, it's all been around for years.
My reply had nothing to do with the link to the story being posted here. I have no issue with comm fishing. As may others have said, it's legal and helps offset the cost of fishing, etc. It was certainly a epic haul and something to be proud of, if that was what they set out to do.
My reply was directed at the amount of information for sale on the other site. Fishing the canal can be easy and fun, if you catch it at the right time. Producing consistent results all season requires putting in lots of time and lots of $$ worth of donated jigs learning the nuances of the place. Exactly how far ahead of the hole to stand or cast at the particular stage of the tide. Knowing how many bounces your jig will make before you have to dump line so it slides down into the hole where the fish really are. I've not come across any book or post that gives up that detail. Seems like from the infomercial I watched, that's what you get, for a fee, from the other site. Maybe not that much detail but that's what it sounded like. There was a quick glimpse of a GGE map with pole numbers and shaded areas in front of it, etc. That's what I don't agree with.
I don't believe the forums are responsible for making the canal what it is, the information posted has done the deed. Kind of like guns don't kill, people do...”Spot Burns” are definitely not cool on most sites. I don’t think anyone here would have wanted you to post where you got your recent 50 (nice fish BTW), but we would all love to know.
If everyone who fished the canal had the information to focus their efforts only on the most productive water, things would be much worse down there. Nothing is more frustrating than watching someone stand on the best spot to fish a hole and have no clue how to do it. I’ve tried to offer help and most often, get an Ahole response like “ I don’t need a guide, thank you”. 10 years ago, you could just move to another spot, but now there’s most likely another guy there doing the same thing.
This is all I was getting at. I can tell from the accolades sent from many members here on your 50, that you too have put in your time. No disrespect meant here - just frustrated that it’s all out there for sale and surprised that more people aren't. #^&#^&#^&#^& hole was a poor choice of words on my part....
Mark
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07-28-2012, 07:37 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
Posts: 21,464
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Am I right that by his report he managed to catch EXACTLY the maximum number of fish allowed by law on both days?
-spence
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07-28-2012, 08:04 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Fall River
Posts: 238
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reads like a good time to me. isn't catching like that what we all strive to do? I didn't say taking all, i said catching. i never leave the dock and say " boy I hope i only catch 3 fish today! " It's called COMMERCIAL FISHING and LEGAL.
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rather be fishin'
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07-28-2012, 08:05 PM
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#12
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,694
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Those who refuse to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.
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07-29-2012, 06:03 AM
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#13
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 82
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
Those who refuse to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.
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This is so true.. This has the late 70's-early 80's written all over it. The entire east coast THANKS YOU...
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07-29-2012, 07:10 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,718
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With a quota to fill this has zero impact on the fishery.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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07-29-2012, 07:47 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
Posts: 8,642
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chris, i know i'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer...but how can the removal 1,057,783 pounds of prime size breeding stock have zero impact on the fishery? that said i'm all for cutting rec take in half and to try to stop all the recs backdooring striped bass on the black market. we as people seem to have our heads buried in the sand and wallets. i know it sounds like blah, blah, blah, to most of you guys, but many of us older guys haved seen what can happen....and is happening again. oh yeah this time we also have mycobacteriosis to deal with.
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07-29-2012, 10:20 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,718
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Quote:
Originally Posted by afterhours
chris, i know i'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer...but how can the removal 1,057,783 pounds of prime size breeding stock have zero impact on the fishery? that said i'm all for cutting rec take in half and to try to stop all the recs backdooring striped bass on the black market. we as people seem to have our heads buried in the sand and wallets. i know it sounds like blah, blah, blah, to most of you guys, but many of us older guys haved seen what can happen....and is happening again. oh yeah this time we also have mycobacteriosis to deal with.
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The angler didn't establish the quota Don. And comm season doesn't close until the quota is met. With this in mind perhaps there should not even be a limit for 30 fish,why not make it as many as you can get until the quota is filled.
I guess my point is that the disapproval should be with those who establish the quota and not with the angler making a buck while having fun. As was said,if he doesn't catch them somebody else will.Thus the zero impact.
As far as coolers or lack thereof;a couple hours in the sun is just fine for bass.These are not tuna.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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07-29-2012, 07:59 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Marshfield, MA
Posts: 1,749
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Nice morning, a few thousand dollars worth of fish there.
The only problem I don't like is the care for the fish, only 2 small coolers that maybe held 7 fish each. If your selling fish it should be treated as if you were going to eat it yourself i.e. after catch put them in the cooler on ice, not sun drying. Need more or bigger coolers.
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Jon, 24' Nauset-Green Topsides, Beamie, North River. Channel 68/69. MSBA, NIBA
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07-29-2012, 08:30 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
With a quota to fill this has zero impact on the fishery.
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True enough....if they didn't catch them, someone else would.
I do get a laugh about statements like this :
"Aside form the economics I really enjoy the feeling of providing a high quality, locally caught food for families all along the eastern seaboard. There’s something really “Cape Coddish” there."
What a crock....people do it for the MONEY, and in the case of Stripers some do it for the entertainment.
Half the fish is probably ground up for animal feed, and the other half goes to expensive restaurants and fish markets that cater to those that can afford 15 to 20$ a pound fish.
After it goes through a few hands and everyone makes a buck.
He'd do the same thing if the fish were frozen and sent to China.
It's business, no need to rationalize it.
A legal activity where a guy can make a buck.
The whole argument that it's some kind of public service is laughable.
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07-28-2012, 08:26 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: guilford CT
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love it when someone makes a profit selling something we all do for recreation (it IS all legal, I know..... just burns my @ss a little)
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07-29-2012, 08:39 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,805
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobber
love it when someone makes a profit selling something we all do for recreation (it IS all legal, I know..... just burns my @ss a little)
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he's like the guy who snorts a whole eight ball of coke
to impress an ugly girl
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07-29-2012, 08:44 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,272
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Go back to 2006 regulation levels - commercial and recreational - and then cut back 33%. No exceptions, not special cases, no historical fisheries. Stop kicking the can down the road.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
he's like the guy who snorts a whole eight ball of coke
to impress an ugly girl
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07-28-2012, 08:29 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pembroke
Posts: 3,343
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I dont know the limits, thats why I asked if there was a limit. 30 fish per day seems strong to me LEGAL or not. Its COMMERCIAL and in my opinion is EXCESSIVE. Didnt say I was against COMMERCIAL fishing but that seems SENSELESS killing all those fish.
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07-28-2012, 08:53 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Marshfield, Ma
Posts: 2,150
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30 fish limit 34" or larger on Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursday only until the quota is hit. Sunday the limit is 5 fish 34" or larger. Monday, Friday & Saturday commercial is closed.
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07-29-2012, 05:05 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 460
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short season too. They just had a great day at the office. That video is sick!
I loved watching the rods in the holders screaming.
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I LOVE it when MY WIFE lets me fish
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07-29-2012, 08:52 AM
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,505
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Proud to supply people with " fresh " cape cod fish?......... What a steaming crock of shyte that is. Braggadocio is all it is..........nice money grab though.
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07-29-2012, 08:56 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
Posts: 21,464
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I'd agree it was a good day at the office but something still doesn't seem right to me...it's like there's some guilt behind those words. Tough to read people through the interwebs though.
-spence
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07-29-2012, 09:34 AM
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My brother is bald
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 4,516
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Well said Raven! Again we completely see eye to eye. Brothers do this you see.
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seals + plovers =
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07-29-2012, 09:38 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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Raven!!!
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07-29-2012, 09:42 AM
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GrandBob
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 3,547
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Basing your decisions and actions on what the government approves of can be a recipe for disaster at times.
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07-29-2012, 04:53 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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1 @ 36.. With gamedish status...And protect the forage fish.
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