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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Tweety's plan to demonstrate that he is a law and order guy by instituting a national police force is pretty scary.

“A standing military force with an overgrown executive will not long be safe companions to liberty,” James Madison told the Constitutional Convention. “The means of defense against foreign danger have been always the instruments of tyranny at home.”

Riot control is nothing new and attacking a crowd typically does nothing other than add a new thing (the police) they are against in addition to their original objective. In this case since police are viewed as the original problem by protesters, the very people that protesters are concerned about are validating their opinions by attacking them.

There are proven methods that have been used for years, nothing works perfectly but the attack method has been proven to have a great chance to escalate and spread the problem.

https://leb.fbi.gov/articles/feature...a-new-paradigm

They are not a standing military force. They are federal agents from DHS and other federal law enforcement departmens. And they are protecting federal property and federal personnel, not the entire city. They are not there to stop the rioting or clean up the city of crime. They are there to protect federal property from vandalization and destruction by the rioters, and to protect federal personnel.

[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by detbuch

They are not a standing military force. They are federal agents from DHS and other federal law enforcement departmens. And they are protecting federal property and federal personnel, not the entire city. They are not there to stop the rioting or clean up the city of crime. They are there to protect federal property from vandalization and destruction by the rioters, and to protect federal personnel.

Do you have a list of the federal properties they are protecting? Or perhaps a statement of their specific mission? Just asking as this would be value added to the discussion for those of us trying to make a value judgement from thousands of miles away.

[nightfighter]

And, getting back to what I believe was the OP; Whoever or what side made the dumbass decision to release violent convicted felons from incarceration due to concerns about COVID 19, has a lot of answering to do... as well as a lot of blood on their hands. The Boston Police Commish came right out with this very point as being the source of the recent increase in shootings in his city.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Do you have a list of the federal properties they are protecting? Or perhaps a statement of their specific mission? Just asking as this would be value added to the discussion for those of us trying to make a value judgement from thousands of miles away.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...deral-property

[nightfighter]

Thank you.

Some things still missing from the narrative though...

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

They are not a standing military force. They are federal agents from DHS and other federal law enforcement departments. And they are protecting federal property and federal personnel, not the entire city. They are not there to stop the rioting or clean up the city of crime. They are there to protect federal property from vandalization and destruction by the rioters, and to protect federal personnel.

So then you are claiming they are just the Graffiti Gestapo.
The jackbooted thugs that the right has claimed for years will take away your rights with no due process or recourse have arrived and they are the President's men.
They have snatched people off the streets of the city, refused to identify themselves, and detained people without charges.
The local elected politicians have asked them to leave, all of the sudden you claim that the man who is not responsible for the safety of American citizens in the case of a virus is responsible for the prevention of property crimes throughout the States.

Chad Wolf, who has not been confirmed by the Senate to serve in the job he has held since he replaced another Acting Secretary of Homeland Security last November, went to Portland last week to personally oversee the operation. He claims that the officers are targeting “violent anarchists” who he blames for spray-painting graffiti on some federal buildings (while stretching the definition of “violent” beyond all logic).

Ask yourself, just what crime did this man commit?

Everything he did was within his First Amendment rights and he was assaulted by the Graffiti Gestapo.